November 06, 2005

Finding Fault

Posted by Jason Snell at 08:54 AM in Cal Football

You know what I think. And what the readers think. So whose fault is it for losing to Oregon, Coach Tedford?

“It’s not on Joe,” coach Jeff Tedford said. “It comes down to everybody.”

Uh-huh. If I were the coach, that’s what I’d say, too. But…

It came down to 4th down, with the full-house crowd of 58,309 growing deafening. Gray got open over the middle, and the ball was a good 10 feet too high.

“I wish I could go back and do that one again,” Ayoob said. “I just threw it over his head. I don’t know what to say about it…. I take responsibility for the loss.”

Hey, Joe Ayoob got it right!

Lynch bristled when told of Ayoob’s comments, saying it was a team loss. “If Joe is going to put in on him, I’ll put it on me,” he said.

Excellent teammate behavior, Marshawn. How can you sell out your only quarterback when you’ve got two or three games left in the season?

But deep down inside, you know they’re all just trying to make the best of a bad situation with an out-of-his-depth quarterback.

When I was in elementary school, I played on a Pee-Wee baseball team that managed to win two games in four years. And no games for the first two years. They told me that losing builds character, and boy, do I believe it. That was a formative experience for me.

After a year like this, Joe Ayoob’s gonna have a whole lot of character. Which will serve him well in the future, whatever he does in life.

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guys, i am glad ur all venting. though, i told u this after the sac state game and you all share in the blame for not helping me put more pressure on tedford to get ayoob the F*CK out of there! if you wanna do something email me, steinsac@yahoo.com. maybe we can try and go out of this season with a little dignity. the time to pull kyle reed from his redshirt has come and gone. those f*cken idiots never listen!

trust me when i tell you that people are gonna here about this event in OREGON, trust me folks...

seth

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Posted by seth at November 6, 2005 09:53 AM

you know, the more i read coach tedfords comments saying that it isn't on ayoob, i actually get a little pissed at him. he is clearly ducking the issue! this game was on ayoob. yeah the team made lapses. but any team, even a good one will. ayoob was the defining difference and coach tedford is being a good coach but that is just bullshit and i think everyone knows it, no?

Posted by seth at November 6, 2005 09:57 AM

Don't be ridiculous. A coach should never publicly call out a player for poor play. That's a good way to lose your team.

Major props to Lynch as well for sticking up for his teammate.

I don't begrudge any success Ayoob might have in the rest of his life. I just don't want him touching the ball at all for the Cal Golden Bears during the 2006 football season.

Posted by War at November 6, 2005 10:11 AM

Seth, after the Sac State game you made a knee-jerk reaction that was WAY premature. Any letter-writing campaign in the world isn't going to dislodge Ayoob -- not then, not now. If Tedford thought he had a better option, he'd use it. But who does he have? Levy? A redshirting freshman? Trust me, if Tedford thought he had bullets left in his gun he'd fire 'em...

Posted by Jason [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 6, 2005 11:01 AM

What about Bryan Van Meter?

Posted by john at November 6, 2005 11:38 AM

I wonder about Ayoob's background. He can't have been this bad always. Or else Tedford wouldn't have bothered to bring him in. Which places Ayoob in select company. It's not often nowadays--with scouting, training and coaching what they are--that we see a (presumably) decent QB utterly break down under pressure. Interesting study in sports psychology--but hard to be on the receiving end. Tangent: to what degree can Ayoob's collapse be attributed to the Tedford ballcock?

Posted by cal83 at November 6, 2005 01:45 PM

All I know is I'm getting real tired of penciling in 4 Ayoob turnovers each game, holding my breath each and every play when he's only logged 3 at the time.

Posted by Tryan at November 6, 2005 05:13 PM

guys - really, !really! LIKE WHAT I AM HEARING. it is like music to the ears. jason, good point. Though, i swear when i say i knew ayoob was a bust. being a former bust myself i know one when i see one. ayoob is no doubt a good person, (much like myself) who will graduate from my favorite university and the number one public university in the country, UCB!

GO BEARS, VOTE NO ON AYOOB 06 OR DIE!

Posted by seth at November 6, 2005 08:32 PM

jason, sorry man. i am always messing up with this thing. i accidentally posted twice because on one of the posts i pressed the stop button to try and take out the "vote ayoob or die" remark, but it posted anyway! please delete that one, i am trying to be less malicious in my comments, sorry again man, and i still love u very much!

Posted by seth at November 6, 2005 08:37 PM

Oregon really coughed up this game as much as possible to hand it to CAL, who basically took the gift and shove it back at their faces.

Ayoob needs to be benched, or basically just hand the ball off to Lynch or just throw little screens. Any ball he throws deeper than 10 yards is often off target. He is now the laughingstock of the campus despite a good WSU outing. But good QBs are made under pressure, and he cracked. This isn't what CAL football needs, and just imagine if Rodgers is still playing, the team could have easily overcame the following defeats:

UCLA 47 - CAL 40
OSU 23 - CAL 20
UO 27 - CAL 20

all within the margins of one possession. Tedford doesn't have any option however, except for Leavy at this point. Pulling a RS Kyle Reed off the bench isn't a way to build your prospect, and I don't believe he can be better than Ayoob at this point.

I am starting to think that with the uncertainty at the QB position again next year, Lynch may bolt for the NFL. That is the worst news any CAL fan needs.

Posted by lex at November 7, 2005 11:32 AM

Agreed 100% about Oregon, Lex -- check out my previous post for similar sentiments.

Posted by Jason [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2005 11:47 AM

guys, here is a letter that i wrote just expressing my feeling about the massacre in oregon. what is this nonesense about lynch bolting? jason is there any credence to that?

the end is near... but all is not lost... even still... GO BEARS! VICTORY 06 OR DEATH!

dear people purporting to be involved with cal football,

gee, did any of you see the game v. oregon? a travesty no? one can no doubt again attribute the loss to poor ayoob. nearly every game this season that has been lost could and should have been won. provided we had a reliable qb, of course. however, that is not to say that the team did not make mistakes as a whole. but hello people, when was the last time you saw a football team play every down without making a mistake. was this loss v. oregon a team loss? NO, it wasn't! in the case of the ucla game i can see how people might have blamed it on special teams. though in that case too, ayoob blew it. unfortunately the game v. oregon was doomed from the start. i am not sure that even i, someone who has critiqued the hell out of ayoobs performance (or lack thereof) all season, have ever seen him this bad. i mean this game in a literal sense was quite painful to watch. i knew ayoob was bad, but i never imagined just how bad it could get.

now, call me stupid, say i am not a coach... yes, that would all be true. but can anyone give me a decent answer on why ayoob just can't seem to hack it to save his life? i mean if this is what is happening to him under tedford, i wonder what his fate would be under another less intelligent coach? god only knows i guess. the results might be far more disastrous. however, and in all fairness, i simply must, and happily grant tedford (remember folks who started v. sac st., wise move coach, u saw too didn't u? u saw the flaws in ayoob too!) full immunity from anyone who might question why he has allowed ayoob to play for so long. the simple and unglamorous answer is the fact that there is really no one else to help out. coach, now listen coach, you have still never told us why you never thought it necessary to pull kyle reed from his redshirt season immediately after the sac st. game as i had diffidently advised you to do. not only that sir but as the season began to spiral further out of control, do to lack of a qb, u still never headed calls to pull this great talent out of his redshirt. i understand that reed did remarkably well in the last full contact scrimmage. that is like music to these ears, better than nirvana (no pun int)!

reality of the rest of the season...

well guys, this is much more difficult to type, but i am afraid that even i must now logically throw the towel in. i did a lot of thinking, and yes still more soul searching and experimenting with the situation. and i know that in earlier posts I had maintained that cal could still be competitive in the pac 10 this year. well, with great odium i am no longer able to stand by that statement. it pains me terribly to say such things about a team/school i love so much, much because it has been so long since i felt that we might not win on any-given-saturday.

THE FUTURE IS NOW!

in closing i will say that i am not sure what the future holds. make no mistakes about it, there are many uncertainties for this young bear team right now. many of the core elements that make up the psyche of any good football player have been tested in almost all regards this year. i think that now is the time to work the kinks out. i am not saying to lay down v. usc and of course not stanfurd, but i really don't want to see anymore needless injuries. if usc is utterly destroying us next week do not kill marshawn with carries (lynch accounted for 75% of the entire cal offense v. oregon) because he isn't going to go down and they will hurt him. you know they will; usc is a bunch of vicious murderers, PLEASE believe ME when i tell you that. their d is very, very underrated to say the least, in my opinion; as are other facets of a team already recognized as being the best in the country. let’s not kill ourselves huh.

next yrs qb situation.

guys, the line goes a little like this, VOTE NO ON AYOOB 06 or risk being tried in quasi cal bear backer courts. with puppet judges to convict u of being a sellout to your team. furthermore, u will be banished from all ucb property but not the uc system as a whole! you know, i really don’t think we need to get that worked up though, because CHECK THIS OUT...

NATE LONGSHORE - will be a sophomore and will be healthy. if u were one of the lucky many to be in berkeley on that beautiful afternoon, as i was, longshore looked spectacular before being brutally attacked!

elite 11 qb!

KYLE REED - this guy is scary. really, he is scary! i am scared of him. scared in a good way!

elite 11 qb!

KEVIN RILEY - from what i understand this young gentleman has already shown a great aptitude for digesting complex offensive formations, even at the hs level. he chose to come to cal over oregon and many other top schools, which makes me feel so warm and hopeful about the future of cal recruiting. i will be shocked if nike doesn't invite him to take the short trip to beaverton for the elite 11 qb competition later this yr. the biggest question on my mind, will he redshirt? to redshirt, or not to redshirt? that is the question...

joe ayoob - poor guy, just couldn't get it together. my heart really does go out to him because i know what it feels like to fail at something you think is more important than life itself. we have all been there joe, you will get over this. remember too when ur experience at cal is over u will have graduated with a degree from the number 1 public university in the country, for free! not only that, you will have become a stronger person. because anyone who can take some of the more hurtful things that you have gone through this season is going to be a better and stronger man. good luck guy... please, no hard feelings. i did what i thought was right for cal, i am a self righteous jerk off who needs to take a hike, i will...

ok guys, well that about does it, take care......

seth

p.s. see u at the stanfurd game. i haven't decided on whether or not to attend usc game yet...

p.s.s. what is the deal with memorial being completed in 09 that is shocking...

Posted by seth at November 7, 2005 12:11 PM

wow, seth. that's a pretty darn long monologue, but I wouldn't count Ayoob out for 06 yet. Just because he has been anemic this season, it doesn't mean he shouldn't get a shot. If this guy can settle down and throw strikes on the other hand, I dare to say this:

He is better than Rodgers :O

Shocking? Not quite considering he gives you a couple of extra plays in the playbook (i.e. QB draw for one). Rodgers was calm and accurate, but he isn't going to burn anyone with his feet.

One game isn't enough to judge Longshore, even though he looked promising. If he can show the same touch versus real competition like SC, LA, or Oregon, then by all means he should be in.

Posted by lex at November 7, 2005 02:01 PM

Lex, I'd take Rodgers' accuracy over Ayoob's legs any day.

Posted by Jason [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2005 02:22 PM

Lynch is NOT bolting for the NFL this season. He's been hurt and his numbers aren't going to be first round material because of the loss of playing time due injuries.

Let's table all worrying about Lynch and the NFL for one more year.

And I would also take Rodger's arm over Ayoob's feet any day of the week.

Posted by Kenny at November 7, 2005 08:49 PM

i would take rodgers left pinkie over ayoobs entire body...

seth

Posted by seth at November 8, 2005 12:16 AM

wow, lex, way out of line dear. HOW DARE YOU MENTION RODGERS (OUR BABY) AND AYOOB (OUR ANTI-CRIST)IN THE SAME BREATH. now having said that if you dare to say he can be better then rodgers i wanna c it! because remember rodgers tied ncaa record v. usc last year with 23 straight completions. if ayoob could get 3 in a row v. usc i would be truly amazed beyong my wildest dreams imaginable. oh and lex marshawn is not leaving. we need him, i don't think we would let him leave and he shouldn't be stupid and try. if he does i will personaly see to it that he faces the same fate as maurice claurett, i promise you that MARSHAWN, don't even think about it!

VOTE NO ON AYOOB 06 OR DIE!

Posted by seth at November 8, 2005 09:52 AM

All of you guys either skipped or blatantly decided to ignore this line, so allow me to quote myself:

"If this guy can settle down and throw strikes on the other hand ..."

Throwing strikes translates to accurancy correct?

So let's say if Vick can throw as accurately as Brady or Manning. You would still pick those two over Vick? That was my point.

Posted by lex at November 8, 2005 11:32 AM

No, I saw that Lex -- but it's so hypothetical that I disregarded it. I mean, if I get a nice figure and a mane of long, lustrous hair, I could be Miss America. But It Ain't Gonna Happen.

Posted by Jason [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 8, 2005 12:02 PM

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